[Stones] Thornborough Restoration short-list

[George Chaplin]

As in Scorton cursus.

Surely the fact that its been quarried doesn't mean its not completely lost
from the record? I thought we preserved all this stuff by record?

Scorton, North Yorkshire? One of only two known cursuses in the county?
Well, these days there's only a half of one left.

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Subject: Re: [Stones] Thornborough Restoration short-list


Scorton? As in............?

DMS

George Chaplin wrote:
> "exciting because we know so darned little about the
> Neolithic / Bronze Age in relation to the heavens:
> anything going on at Thornborough is likely to have
> had some form of reciprococity elsewhere in the
> British Isles, and of course, i am principally
> thinking of Avebury ..."
>
> I neglected to mention that the site that I consider to be a "sister
site",
> from a campaigning and general importance point of view - Tara, has also
> recently claiomed an Orion connection. I've a feeling that their science
is
> not as far advanced as ours and I think its going to be very interesting
> using some of the Thornborough data to cross - compare potential
alignments
> and so help raise the profile of both monuments, though I don't think Tara
> needs much help in that department right now.
>
> "i don't know the Thornborough landscape but i am
> sometimes in the vicinity of the colossal Dorset
> Cursus, and i'm pretty sure both ends of this progress
> are marked by long-barrows, so i should suspect the
> cursus idea, and the afterlife, or 'the ancestors' -
> were somehow connected?"
>
> Their used to be an exellent example of a cursus at Scorton. At one end it
> was closed and behind it were a bunch of barrows. From that point, the
> cursus went as straight as a runway, up a small rise and on to the
> "heavens". Unfortunately that was quarried pretty much 100% and the quarry
> is now owned by Tarmac.
>
> Tarmac are up for sale you know. Fancy clubbing together and buying them
> out?
>
> ;)
>
> George
>
>
> --- George Chaplin <webmaster at ancienteurope.info>
> wrote:
>
>
>> All this talk of restoration has kind of got me
>> wanting to put my words into
>> action. I'm thinking that now is the time to start
>> pushing for a restoration
>> of the ruined parts of Thornborough's landscape,
>> starting initially with the
>> cursus/landfill.
>>
>> If what I'm lead to believe is right, then
>> Thornborough's cursus will get a
>> significant mention in Yan Hardings book about the
>> astronomy of
>> Thornborough, due out later this year. This book
>> will I believe be endorsed
>> by the RAS and I think all of the calculations have
>> been verified by
>> Sheffield.
>>
>> For those of you that have not been to Thornborough,
>> the western half of the
>> cursus has been pretty much quarried in full and
>> then partially landfilled.
>> Leaving behind a cursus that is initially a 4m
>> quarry ditch, then a 5m
>> landfill mound and then a 4m quarry ditcvh again.
>>
>> The furthest western tip of the cursus was never
>> quarried. The quarried bits
>> have been left as pretty useless strips of land,
>> with little topsoil and
>> poor light conditions.
>>
>> I principle, what I think we should push for is to
>> flatten the landfill and
>> use the excess to fill the quarried areas. Mark out
>> the cursus in some way
>> and turn it into a piece of open parkland running
>> down to the river Ure,
>> with a path connecting West Tanfield to the cursus
>> via a riverside walk. I
>> know the area and I think that other than actually
>> paying for the
>> restoration, the landowners would be happy to have
>> this land resored, and
>> afterwards they cam continue to use it as it is now
>> - as pasture for sheep.
>>
>> Personally, I'd also be open to adventurous ideas of
>> trying to recreate the
>> ancient cursus on the section that has been fully
>> quarried to make it more
>> interesting for visitors. I personally think that
>> such a recreation can be
>> done in a way that inspires solid debate on the
>> subject, even in common all
>> garden Joe Public, with the right interpretation
>> boards it could be made
>> both interesting and not too dictatorial in terms of
>> the actual recreation,
>> after all there are few records of what was actually
>> there and that
>> information is lost forever.
>>
>> I tend to think these days that cursuses where kind
>> of symbolic spirit paths
>> similar to those that appear in other cultures, and
>> that the connection with
>> Orion could well be astrologically based - the
>> rising sign of the gods?
>>
>> George
>>
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