[Stones] Some stones in Vermont, USA

Ric megalith6 at yahoo.co.uk
Tue Nov 28 22:49:55 GMT 2006


hi,
   
  there are very few Native American cultures which emerged from European contact relatively unscathed and in one piece - the Ojibwa have largely retained their culture, lands and language. the Delawares worshipped a 'Living Stone Face' in their 'Big House' temples, but the details of their pre-Contact culture are fairly obscure, unfortunately. the last fluent, native speakers of the Delaware language have passed on - i think: when the language goes, i don't believe the finer details of a culture can be transmitted adequately -  culture is hugely complex - language is the key to any culture - and scores of languages go belly up with each passing year, which is an absolute disaster for us all
   
  urban life is an experiment all the way back - for example - to proto cities like Catal Huyuk ~ and the jury's still out, last i heard?
   
  ric
  

The Wissers <wissers3 at enter.net> wrote:
    ric,
  

  Most still have not emerged from their long secrecy, but descendants of eastern woodlands peoples have been reared in the old ways, surreptitiously performing rituals and teaching what remains of the old knowledge. The opposite of the numerous 'wannabes' one now meets with, these people try not to seem like Indians outside their groups and don't brag about their knowledge. I met a few during a brief period when one Lenape group was toying with going public completely, and happened to be present when the chief of that group sat down with Paul Nevin, the man who studies and has helped preserve the Susquehanna petroglyphs. I heard him say to Paul, "Do you want to know what they mean?" and they sat together off to the side of the group for some time. 
  

  While much has been forgotten, some knowledge has been retained. Whether it will be passed on to youth increasingly disenchanted with the very idea of being Indian I can't say. I don't think many of the hidden groups will come forth to share that knowledge widely unless society makes large gestures toward improving our relationship with the earth and living things, The chances of that on this side of the ocean are slim to none.
  

  It seems a shame but my impression was that many would rather let the knowledge die than let  those who don't understand their ways of seeing have any advantage from it.
  

  Nancy

    On Nov 27, 2006, at 5:23 PM, Ric wrote:

    hi,
   
  yes, Abenaki or 'Easterners', name borne by several NE Woodlands tribes but has stuck with the Abenaki's. There are also, potentially, Lenape (Delaware) petroglyphs - recorded in Kraft p 171, 1986, 'The Lenape'. Unfortunately, the initial-contact Europeans took little interest in the established cultures they encountered, so not a great deal is known about this rock art -  the same is true for a great deal of prehistory in America?
   
  general list note: if you want to know what NE Woodlands tribes looked like - see erroneously titled 'Last of the Mohicans' film - a very accurate period piece!
   
  http://www.mohicanpress.com/mo06063.html

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